Jesse, Jerry and Pat

Jesse, Jerry and Pat

You never know who you’ll meet in the “green room.”

Recently,while waiting to be grilled by Chris Matthews on MSNBC I ran into the Reverend Jesse Jackson, who had just come from Harvard University where he delivered a speech marking the Rainbow Coalition’s 20th anniversary. The Reverend was about to join Pat Buchanan and Jerry Brown on a “Hardball” segment that should have been billed “The Contenders.” (Jackson ran for President in ’84 and ’88; Brown in ’76 and ’92 and Buchanan in ’92, ’96 and 2000.)

I’m posting a transcript of their conversation–with Matthews’s inevitable Saturday Night Live-styleinterventions–because it was one of the better TV moments I’ve seen in these last months. And the transpartisan bonding, particularly between Brown and Buchanan, is worth noting.

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You never know who you’ll meet in the “green room.”

Recently,while waiting to be grilled by Chris Matthews on MSNBC I ran into the Reverend Jesse Jackson, who had just come from Harvard University where he delivered a speech marking the Rainbow Coalition’s 20th anniversary. The Reverend was about to join Pat Buchanan and Jerry Brown on a “Hardball” segment that should have been billed “The Contenders.” (Jackson ran for President in ’84 and ’88; Brown in ’76 and ’92 and Buchanan in ’92, ’96 and 2000.)

I’m posting a transcript of their conversation–with Matthews’s inevitable Saturday Night Live-styleinterventions–because it was one of the better TV moments I’ve seen in these last months. And the transpartisan bonding, particularly between Brown and Buchanan, is worth noting.

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