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Trump vs. LA—Plus, Rachel Kushner’s Creation Lake

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Harold Meyerson on the fight against ICE in Southern California, and Rachel Kushner on her latest novel.

Jon Wiener

July 9, 2025

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Trump v. L.A.—Plus, Rachel Kushner’s ‘Creation Lake’ | Start Making Sense
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Trump’s ICE is attacking undocumented people in LA County because there are a lot of them — maybe a million, out of a total of 3.3 million Latinos, and also because LA is one of the most Democratic counties in the country. And LA has a big and militant alliance of immigrants rights groups that are fighting Trump. Harold Meyerson will explain the deportation battle in Southern California at this point. 

Also: Rachel Kushner will talk about the informant and provacateur who infiltrates an anarchist eco-commune in rural France – the central character in her award-winning novel, “Creation Lake” – it’s out now, in paperback.

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Trump’s ICE is attacking undocumented people in LA County because there are a lot of them—maybe a million, out of a total of 3.3 million Latinos, and also because LA is one of the most Democratic counties in the country. And LA has a big and militant alliance of immigrant rights groups that are fighting Trump. Harold Meyerson will explain the deportation battle in Southern California at this point. 

Also: Rachel Kushner will talk about the informant and provocateur who infiltrates an anarchist eco-commune in rural France—the central character in her award-winning novel, Creation Lake—it’s out now, in paperback.

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Trump’s Attacks on Voting, and on Iran / Start Making Sense
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After Senate Democrats block the SAVE act, Trump is likely to declare a national security emergency – claiming China could interfere in the midterms – as a basis for restricting voting. David Cole comments; he’s former legal director of the ACLU.

Also: Congress must challenge Trump’s war on Iran and assert its constitutional duty to take up War Powers resolutions and assert its primacy over matters of war and peace. John Nichols explains.  

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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