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What Kamala Accomplished at the Debate— Plus Victory for Homeless Vets

On this episode of the Start Making Sense podcast, John Nichols analyzes the presidential debate, and Mark Rosenbaum reports on the VA’s defeat in LA.

Jon Wiener

September 11, 2024

Former US president Donald Trump and US Vice President Kamala Harris during the second presidential debate in Philadelphia on September 10, 2024.(Win McNamee / Getty Images)

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The Debate: What Kamala Accomplished; plus Victory for Homeless Vets | Start Making Sense
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Tuesday night’s debate showed what Kamala can do – and what Trump can’t. John Nichols has our analysis.

Also: homeless vets have been trying for years to get the VA to build housing for them in LA on land dedicated to that purpose. Now, a federal judge has finally ruled: the vets win, and the VA loses. Mark Rosenbaum, lead attorney in the vets’ class action suit, explain.

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Tuesday night’s debate showed what Kamala can do—and what Trump can’t. John Nichols has our analysis.

Also on this episode: Homeless vets have been trying for years to get the VA to build housing for them in LA on land dedicated to that purpose. Now, a federal judge has finally ruled: The vets win, and the VA loses. Mark Rosenbaum, lead attorney in the vets’ class action suit, explains.

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How LA Defeated Trump, Plus Bob Dylan’s Xmas | Start Making Sense
byThe Nation Magazine

In June, Trump sent more than 4,000 National Guard troops and 700 Marines to occupy Los Angeles and terrorize the immigrant population. But by the end of July, almost all the Guard and the Marines were gone. Bill Gallegos explains how that happened and what other cities can learn from it. 

Also: Bob Dylan fans have been puzzled and troubled by his Christmas album ever since he released it in 2009. To help figure out what Dylan was doing, we turn to Sean Wilentz. He’s author of Bob Dylan in America, and he also teaches history at Princeton. (Originally recorded in January, 2005.)​ 

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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