For there to be any kind of change, outrage over the NYPD’s spying operation will need to spread more broadly throughout the progressive community.

In this episode of Nation Conversations, editors Betsy Reed and Liliana Segura discuss the latest developments in the New York Police Department’s surveillance story and the reasons why calls for Police Chief Ray Kelly may be falling on deaf ears. For more, see this week’s lead editorial, “Can Anyone Rein in the NYPD’s Spies?” For actions you can take to hold the NYPD accountable, click here.

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—Erin Schikowski