Is Occupy Wall Street capable of bringing about concrete, social change? In the midst of an ongoing debate surrounding the protest’s effectiveness, Nation editor and publisher Katrina vanden Heuvel ventured to Liberty Plaza to see the protests for herself. In an interview with Danny Schecter and Democracy Now!’s Amy Goodman, she discusses the movements admirable “moral clarity”—and its potential need for electoral energy to push for radical, systemic reform.

—Teresa Cotsirilos