No, JD Vance Did Not Win the Debate on Abortion
Mainstream journalists are making something very simple too complicated: Republicans want a national abortion ban.

Republican vice presidential candidate Senator JD Vance (R-OH) participates in a debate at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024, in New York City. This is expected to be the only vice presidential debate of the 2024 general election.
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If you want a good example of a mainstream news organization rooting for Donald Trump to at least keep the polls even, hereâs the best: Politico claiming that âTrump and Vanceâs efforts on the debate stage and on social media Tuesday night were the latest examples of the GOP ticketâs months-long effort to neutralize one of Democratsâ most effective lines of attack and rebrand as moderate on abortion, and there are signs it might be working.â
Thatâs ridiculous. The entire world has ruled that Walz beat Vance when it came to abortion at the Tuesday night debate. On that and on the significance of January 6.
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Otherwise, Walz maybe didnât do so great. I donât knowâI didnât watch, and I still havenât watched, because the day before, as many of you know, I lost my 15-year-old dog. My Nation colleagues stepped in for me entirely. I love them.
But I did notice the exchanges on abortion. Walz noted that Trump âbrags about how great it was that he put the judges in and overturned Roe v. Wade.â He acknowledged the tragedy of Amber Thurman, who died after traveling out of restrictive Georgia to access care in North Carolina. He talked about Amanda Zurawski, who was denied an abortion even after almost dying of pregnancy complications. âIf you donât know [women like this], you soon will. Their Project 2025 is going to have a registry of pregnancies,â Walz said, which Vance contested.
But the Politico Playbook decided it was a draw⌠which actually means Vance won.
âIâm sure JD Vance put the fear in Democratic consultants last night because their magic message of âRepublicans are bad on abortionâ seemed, to me, to be mitigated,â Stan Barnes, an Arizona strategist and former GOP lawmaker, told Politico. âFor a lot of voters, I think the threat of a national ban rings hollow.â
Excuse me? So Vance promised that Trump would never sign a nationwide abortion ban. Trump promised this too. Meanwhile, Trump is voting for the six-week abortion ban on the ballot in Florida. Thatâs what he means by leaving it to the states.
Poor JD Vance should also talk to Marla Maples and Melania Trump to see if Trump keeps his word. He cheated on all three of his wives. I donât think Trump will ever get the votes to sign an abortion ban, but if he did? He would sign one so fast, it would make Ivana Trump turn in her grave at his golf course. (Iâm so sad JD canât talk to Ivana.)
JD Vance clearly got some coaching to get him not only to talk (comparatively) sensibly about abortion, but about everything. It was not the shitshow I expected (or letâs be honest, hoped for. The Harris/Trump showdown was one of the best nights of my recent political life).
This was not. But I think Planned Parenthood summed it up perfectly: âJD Vance said he supports a âminimum national standardâ and heâs even said he âcertainly would like abortion to be illegal nationally.â Letâs be clear: A national minimum standard is the same thing as a national ban.â
Why do we have to keep acting like this is up for debate? Republicans will impose an abortion ban if they get the chance. If Democrats keep the Senate, and elect Kamala Harris, they wonât have that chance. Itâs that simple, and also that complicated, since our media wonât make it simple.
