Who Are the Shooters?
On this episode of The Time of Monsters: Ken Klippenstein on the complexity of political violence.
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Who Are the Shooters? w/ Ken Klippenstein | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
The United States continues to be roiled by political violence, with the recent shooting at an ICE
facility in Dallas coming hot on the heels of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a school
shooting in Colorado committed by a neo-Nazi. Some of the best reporting on these events has
been done by Ken Klippenstein for his Substack. I spoke with Ken about what he’s discovered
when he interviewed those who knew the alleged shooters, how his findings go against the
simplistic partisan interpretations offered by both the left and right, as well as the dangerous
ways the Trump administration is using the shootings for a crackdown on civil liberties.
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The FBI investigates on a rooftop near the scene where a shooter opened fire on an ICE facility, September 24, 2025 in Dallas, Texas.
(Stewart F. House via Getty Images)The United States continues to be roiled by political violence, with the recent shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas coming hot on the heels of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a school shooting in Colorado committed by a neo-Nazi. Some of the best reporting on these events has been done by Ken Klippenstein for his Substack. I spoke with Ken about what he’s discovered when he interviewed those who knew the alleged shooters, how his findings go against the simplistic partisan interpretations offered by both the left and right, as well as the dangerous ways the Trump administration is using the shootings for a crackdown on civil liberties.
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The Imperial Presidency and the Iran War w/ Matt Duss | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
Writing in Foreign Policy, Matt Duss argues that Donald Trump’s rush to war is both
stupid and illegal. It is also wildly unpopular with the public. But he also observes that
congress has been reluctant to challenge Trump’s policy, although some progressives
have now forced the issue to a vote. Matt is a frequent guest of the show and foreign
policy expert. I talked to him about the dangers of a new war and also the larger
systematic problems of the imperial presidency.
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