Who Are the Shooters?
On this episode of The Time of Monsters: Ken Klippenstein on the complexity of political violence.
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Who Are the Shooters? w/ Ken Klippenstein | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
The United States continues to be roiled by political violence, with the recent shooting at an ICE
facility in Dallas coming hot on the heels of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a school
shooting in Colorado committed by a neo-Nazi. Some of the best reporting on these events has
been done by Ken Klippenstein for his Substack. I spoke with Ken about what he’s discovered
when he interviewed those who knew the alleged shooters, how his findings go against the
simplistic partisan interpretations offered by both the left and right, as well as the dangerous
ways the Trump administration is using the shootings for a crackdown on civil liberties.
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The FBI investigates on a rooftop near the scene where a shooter opened fire on an ICE facility, September 24, 2025 in Dallas, Texas.
(Stewart F. House via Getty Images)The United States continues to be roiled by political violence, with the recent shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas coming hot on the heels of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a school shooting in Colorado committed by a neo-Nazi. Some of the best reporting on these events has been done by Ken Klippenstein for his Substack. I spoke with Ken about what he’s discovered when he interviewed those who knew the alleged shooters, how his findings go against the simplistic partisan interpretations offered by both the left and right, as well as the dangerous ways the Trump administration is using the shootings for a crackdown on civil liberties.
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The Living Legacy of Norman Podhoretz w/ David Klion and Ronnie Grinberg | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
Norman Podhoretz, one of the founding fathers of neoconservatism, died on December 16 at
age 95. His legacy is a complex one, since in recent decades neoconservatism has been
supplanted in many ways by American First conservatism. But many aspects of Podhoretz’s
influence still play a shaping role on right. I take up Podhoretz’s career with David Klion (who
wrote an obituary for the pundit for The Nation) and the historian Ronnie Grinberg, who had
discussed Podhoretz in her book Write Like a Man.
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