Who Are the Shooters?
On this episode of The Time of Monsters: Ken Klippenstein on the complexity of political violence.
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Who Are the Shooters? w/ Ken Klippenstein | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
The United States continues to be roiled by political violence, with the recent shooting at an ICE
facility in Dallas coming hot on the heels of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a school
shooting in Colorado committed by a neo-Nazi. Some of the best reporting on these events has
been done by Ken Klippenstein for his Substack. I spoke with Ken about what he’s discovered
when he interviewed those who knew the alleged shooters, how his findings go against the
simplistic partisan interpretations offered by both the left and right, as well as the dangerous
ways the Trump administration is using the shootings for a crackdown on civil liberties.
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The FBI investigates on a rooftop near the scene where a shooter opened fire on an ICE facility, September 24, 2025 in Dallas, Texas.
(Stewart F. House via Getty Images)The United States continues to be roiled by political violence, with the recent shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas coming hot on the heels of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a school shooting in Colorado committed by a neo-Nazi. Some of the best reporting on these events has been done by Ken Klippenstein for his Substack. I spoke with Ken about what he’s discovered when he interviewed those who knew the alleged shooters, how his findings go against the simplistic partisan interpretations offered by both the left and right, as well as the dangerous ways the Trump administration is using the shootings for a crackdown on civil liberties.
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Bombing Iran Won’t Help the Protesters, with Annelle Sheline | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
Iran is facing upheavals at home and abroad. For more than two decades, the Islamic Republic has faced waves of protests from citizens demanding a more democratic society. Over the past two weeks, these protests have erupted with a new ferocity and are being met with violent repression. Meanwhile, the Israeli government is pushing the United States to renew bombing Iran, a military objective now being given the guise of a humanitarian mission. To discuss the turmoil in Iran and place it in the larger context of regional instability and competing visions of the future of the Middle East, I spoke with Annelle Sheline, a research fellow at The Quincy Institute who studies the region, in this special Friday edition of the podcast.
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