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How to Win (or Lose) Wisconsin

On this episode of See How They Run, Ben Wikler and John Nichols on the very particular, very important swing state.

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How to Win (or Lose) Wisconsin | See How They Run
byThe Nation Magazine

On this episode of See How They Run, Ben Wikler and John Nichols join D.D. Guttenplan to discuss how the election will turn out in the very particular, very important swing state of Wisconsin.

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Vendors sell campaign-related merchandise before the start of a rally hosted by Republican presidential nominee, former U.S. President Donald Trump at Dodge County Airport on October 06, 2024, in Juneau, Wisconsin.

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With just a few weeks to go until the 2024 election, both parties are throwing everything they’ve got at the key battleground states that will decide whether Donald Trump or Kamala Harris gets to reside in the White House in January. And today, we’re going to take a look at the state that Trump recently called “the toughest of the swing states to win”: Wisconsin. It’s a state that has long defied easy categorization—the birthplace of the Republican Party and sewer socialism; the political home of Bob La Follette and Joe McCarthy; the place that gave us Scott Walker and Tammy Baldwin. And Trump and Harris are both desperate to win it.

So what do we need to understand about Wisconsin right now? Where are the places that will decide whether it turns red or blue? And are the Democrats doing enough to keep Trump at bay? To discuss all of that, we’re joined by two Wisconsin all-stars: Ben Wikler, chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party, and The Nation’s resident badger, John Nichols.

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D.D. Guttenplan

D.D. Guttenplan is a special correspondent for The Nation and the former host of The Nation Podcast. He served as editor of the magazine from 2019 to 2025 and, prior to that, as an editor at large and London correspondent. His books include American Radical: The Life and Times of I.F. Stone, The Nation: A Biography, and The Next Republic: The Rise of a New Radical Majority.

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