Podcast / American Prestige / Apr 8, 2025

Alternative Media, Trump 2.0, and the Moment in Politics

On this episode of American Prestige, Katrina vanden Heuvel on the current state of politics, left journalism, Ukraine, and more.

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Alternative Media, Trump 2.0, and the Moment in Politics w/ Katrina vanden Heuvel | American Prestige
byThe Nation Magazine

On this episode of American Prestige, Danny and Derek welcome to the show Katrina vanden Heuvel, editorial director and publisher of The Nation, for a wide-ranging discussion on this moment in politics. They delve into the radicalization that led to Trump, the Democrats’ devotion to the Third Way, the need for a coherent leftwing media structure, Ukraine, NATO, the “Pivot to Asia”, the US empire, and what comes next.

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Ukrainian rescuers work at the site of a residential building destroyed following a drone attack in Kharkiv, on April 4, 2025, amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

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On this episode of American Prestige, we welcome to the show Katrina vanden Heuvel, editorial director and publisher of The Nation, for a wide-ranging discussion on this moment in politics. We delve into the radicalization that led to Trump, the Democrats’ devotion to the Third Way, the need for a coherent leftwing media structure, Ukraine, NATO, the “Pivot to Asia,” the US empire, and what comes next.

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Disneyland: Cold War Factory w/ Roland Betancourt / American Prestige
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Danny and Derek speak with Roland Betancourt, Chancellor's Professor of Art History at UC Irvine, about Disneyland and the rise of automation in the US. They talk about Walt Disney’s move from animation to theme parks, the relationship between amusement parks and industrial production, Cold War technology and Southern California, Disney’s use of automation and control, labor in the theme park, Disney World and Epcot, and more.

Grab your copy of Roland’s book Disneyland and the Rise of Automation: How Technology Created the Happiest Place on Earth.

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Daniel Bessner

Daniel Bessner is an historian of US foreign relations, and cohost of American Prestige, a podcast on international affairs.

Derek Davison

Derek Davison is a writer and analyst specializing in international affairs and US foreign policy. He is the publisher of the Foreign Exchanges newsletter, cohost of the American Prestige podcast, and former editor of LobeLog.

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