“For the first time, there is a military expansion of NATO, not just political, toward Russia. But, it’s not too late to stop it,” said Stephen Cohen, contributing editor of The Nation, on the SophieCo show. Cohen spoke about deteriorating US-Russian relations, the possibility of direct conflict and the dangers of NATO expansion eastwards. “If leadership does what leadership is supposed to do, if states—men and women—do what they’re supposed to do, we can end this Ukrainian crisis and stop this military expansion of NATO.”

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—Talal Ansari