What separates the most successful lobbyists from the rest? Which of their tactics are more corrupting, campaign donations or complimentary dinners, sports games, golf outings and other forms of entertainment? And does bigger government mean more corruption?

The Nation’s Katrina vanden Heuvel sat down with Jack Abramoff, Joe Sestak and Bob Herbert to discuss precisely these questions, and more this Sunday on Up w/ Chris Hayes.

Erin Schikowski