Podcast / The Time of Monsters / Feb 8, 2026

Trump Is Using Terrorist Charges to Wage Political War

Josh Kovensky on a dangerous politicization of the law.

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Trump is Using Terrorist Charges to Wage Political War w/ Josh Kovensky | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
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Over at Talking Points Memo, Josh Kovensky has written an essay on the Trump

administration’s use of anti-terrorism law to target political groups it doesn’t like.

In that piece, Kovensky notes,

"Across the country, federal prosecutors are upgrading what would have been routine

prosecutions into terrorism cases when they involve people President Trump has cast as his

political enemies.

It represents a dramatic departure from how the Justice Department has historically used the

federal material support for terrorism statute. For decades, counterterrorism prosecutors have

largely reserved the statute — 2339A — for the kinds of audacious plots that wreak real, lasting

damage or whose ambition forms the stuff of movie screenplays."

I spoke to Kovensky about his essay and the history and politics of this dangerous legal

innovation.

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Over at Talking Points Memo, Josh Kovensky has written an article on the Trump administration’s use of anti-terrorism law to target political groups it doesn’t like.

In that piece, Kovensky notes, “Across the country, federal prosecutors are upgrading what would have been routine prosecutions into terrorism cases when they involve people President Trump has cast as his political enemies. It represents a dramatic departure from how the Justice Department has historically used the federal material support for terrorism statute. For decades, counterterrorism prosecutors have largely reserved the statute—2339A—for the kinds of audacious plots that wreak real, lasting damage or whose ambition forms the stuff of movie screenplays.”

I spoke to Kovensky about his essay as well as the history and politics of this dangerous legal innovation.

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Origins of the Imperial Presidency w/ David Sirota | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
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As millions of Americans protest Donald Trump under the slogan of “No Kings,” it is

worth asking how the nation ended up with such an authoritarian president. David Sirota

and the team at The Lever have provided a great answer to this question in their new

podcast seriesMaster Plan: The Kingmakers, which looks at the revival of the Imperial

Presidency after the Watergate scandal of the early 1970s. I talked to David about the

history uncovered in this podcast and why Trump is merely a symptom of a much

deeper problem.

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Jeet Heer

Jeet Heer is a national affairs correspondent for The Nation and host of the weekly Nation podcast, The Time of Monsters. He also pens the monthly column “Morbid Symptoms.” The author of In Love with Art: Francoise Mouly’s Adventures in Comics with Art Spiegelman (2013) and Sweet Lechery: Reviews, Essays and Profiles (2014), Heer has written for numerous publications, including The New Yorker, The Paris Review, Virginia Quarterly Review, The American Prospect, The GuardianThe New Republic, and The Boston Globe.

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