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The Rush to War With Venezuela

On The Time of Monsters: Van Jackson on Trump’s reckless plunge into conflict in Latin America.

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The Rush to War Against Venezuela with Van Jackson | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
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On Friday, the self-styled “Secretary of War” Pete Hegseth announced the US was sending an

aircraft carrier to bolster its attacks on Venezuelan boats (which the Trump administration

alleges, without evidence, are trafficking drugs). I spoke to international relations scholar Van

Jackson (whose work can be found here) about the motives for this new war as well as the

muted opposition to it from Democrats.

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An indigenous woman waves a Venezuelan flag during a rally to commemorate Indigenous Resistance Day on October 12, 2025 in Caracas, Venezuela.

An indigenous woman waves a Venezuelan flag during a rally to commemorate Indigenous Resistance Day, on October 12, 2025 in Caracas, Venezuela.

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On Friday, the self-styled “Secretary of War” Pete Hegseth announced that the US was sending an aircraft carrier to bolster its attacks on Venezuelan boats (which the Trump administration alleges, without evidence, are trafficking drugs). I spoke to international relations scholar Van Jackson (whose work can be found here) about the motives for this new war as well as the muted opposition to it from Democrats.

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The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer

The Time of Monsters podcast features Nation national-affairs correspondent Jeet Heer’s signature blend of political culture and cultural politics. Each week, he’ll host in-depth conversations with urgent voices on the most pressing issues of our time.

After Iran War, Can America Still Be Trusted? w/ Annelle Sheline
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The US/Israel war against Iran has been devastating to many US allies, both in the Middle

East and the wider world. It could easily lead to a Global Depression. Even before the

war, Annelle Sheline of the Quincy Institute noted that countries such as Qatar and

Saudi Arabia had good reason to wean themselves away from a close reliance on the

US. I talked to Annelle about the current state of the war and why it will only intensify

the alienation of traditional US allies.

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Jeet Heer is a national affairs correspondent for The Nation and host of the weekly Nation podcast, The Time of Monsters. He also pens the monthly column “Morbid Symptoms.” The author of In Love with Art: Francoise Mouly’s Adventures in Comics with Art Spiegelman (2013) and Sweet Lechery: Reviews, Essays and Profiles (2014), Heer has written for numerous publications, including The New Yorker, The Paris Review, Virginia Quarterly Review, The American Prospect, The GuardianThe New Republic, and The Boston Globe.

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