Podcast / The Time of Monsters / Apr 20, 2026

Palestine and the Iran War

Yousef Munayyer on the divergence between the US and Israel.

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Palestine and the Iran War w/ Yousef Munayyer | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
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As negotiations proceed in ending the Iran War, the question of the relationship between the US

and Israel becomes more salient. I spoke with Middle East expert Yousef Munayyer on the

agenda of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whose interest in a securing his country’s

hegemony in the region is now in conflict with efforts to end the war.

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Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu visits an Israeli military unit stationed in the occupied territory of southern Lebanon on April 12, 2026.

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As negotiations proceed in ending the Iran War, the question of the relationship between the US and Israel becomes more salient. I spoke with Middle East expert Yousef Munayyer about the agenda of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whose interest in securing his country’s hegemony in the region is now in conflict with efforts to end the war.

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Why SCOTUS is Climate Action’s Biggest Threat w/ Elie Mystal / A People’s Climate
byThe Nation Magazine

That’s why The Nation’s justice correspondent Elie Mystal thinks the Supreme Court should matter to everyone who cares about climate and environmental justice. The Court can block laws, limit the government’s ability to regulate polluters, and prevent communities from holding powerful companies accountable. In this episode of A People’s Climate, Shilpi Chhotray talks with Mystal about what happens when some of the biggest climate battles are being decided by a few unelected judges.

Mystal explains how the Supreme Court has changed, why its decisions have such far-reaching consequences for climate policy, and what recent cases like Loper Bright and Suncor Energy reveal about the stakes. He and Shilpi also discuss what can be done to change the Supreme Court, including stronger ethics rules, term limits, and expanding the number of justices.

Note: At the time of recording, Justice Samuel Alito had not recused himself from Suncor Energy v. Boulder County, which is discussed in this episode. On September 28, 2026, Alito recused himself from the case.

Key Topics

  • The Supreme Court & climate: Why the Court has become such an important battleground over climate laws, environmental protections, and corporate accountability.
  • The Shadow Docket: How the Supreme Court can block or change major climate policies through emergency rulings—without hearing full arguments or explanations.
  • Loper Bright & the EPA: What overturning Chevron deference means for regulating polluters and protecting the environment.
  • Fossil fuel accountability: What the Suncor Energy case could mean for efforts to hold oil and gas companies responsible for climate-related harms.
  • Supreme Court ethics: Questions around conflicts of interest, financial ties, recusals, and the lack of a binding ethics code for the justices.
  • Reforming the Court: What could be done to change the Supreme Court, including term limits, stronger ethics rules, and adding more justices.
  • Climate & political power: Why understanding the courts is essential to understanding where climate policy gets made—and where it can be blocked.

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Host: Shilpi Chhotray

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Elie Mystal

Elie Mystal is The Nation's justice correspondent and a columnist; host of its legal podcast,Contempt of Court; and author of the weekly newsletter “Elie v. U.S.” He is also an Alfred Knobler Fellow at Type Media Center and the author of the New York Times best-sellers Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy's Guide to the Constitution and Bad Law: 10 Popular Laws That Are Ruining America.

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Jeet Heer

Jeet Heer is a national affairs correspondent for The Nation and host of the weekly Nation podcast, The Time of Monsters. He also pens the monthly column “Morbid Symptoms.” The author of In Love with Art: Francoise Mouly’s Adventures in Comics with Art Spiegelman (2013) and Sweet Lechery: Reviews, Essays and Profiles (2014), Heer has written for numerous publications, including The New Yorker, The Paris Review, Virginia Quarterly Review, The American Prospect, The Guardian, The New Republic, and The Boston Globe.

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