The ICJ Israel Case Explainer With Aslı Bâli
On this episode of American Prestige, the legal definition of genocide, what was ordered in the ICJ ruling, and the court’s ability to enforce it.

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On this episode of American Prestige, Danny and Derek chat with Aslı Bâli, professor of law at Yale Law School.
Aslı, whose research focuses largely on human rights law and the law of the international security order, helps us break down the legal definition of genocide, the substance of the ICJ ruling and what was ordered, and the court’s ability to enforce it.
The conversation continues for subscribers, covering the American legal community’s reaction, how this decision compares with the ICJ’s 2022 ruling on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, what Gaza’s “occupied” status means regarding Israel’s prerogatives in this situation, and more.
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South African delegation members John Dugard, Tembeka Ngcukaitobi, and Adila Hassimon prepare for today’s hearings of Israel’s point of view as South Africa has requested the International Court of Justice to indicate measures concerning alleged violations of human rights by Israel in the Gaza Strip on January 12, 2024, in The Hague, The Netherlands.
(Michel Porro / Getty)On this episode of American Prestige, Danny and Derek chat with Aslı Bâli, professor of law at Yale Law School.
Aslı, whose research focuses largely on human rights law and the law of the international security order, helps us break down the legal definition of genocide, the substance of the ICJ ruling and what was ordered, and the court’s ability to enforce it.
The conversation continues for subscribers, covering the American legal community’s reaction, how this decision compares with the ICJ’s 2022 ruling on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, what Gaza’s “occupied” status means regarding Israel’s prerogatives in this situation, and more.

Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
Danny and Derek welcome back Akbar Shahid Ahmed, Diplomatic correspondent for The Washington Sun and author of Crossing the Red Line: Biden, His Advisors, and Israel’s War on Gaza, to talk about the Biden administration’s role in enabling the genocide in Gaza. They discuss the conditions in the Strip as of the current day; Biden’s small inner circle of Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, and Brett McGurk; Jack Lew’s role of ambassador and the dubious war crime review process he implemented; the Rafah red line and its immediate collapse after Israel invaded; and the Democratic Party’s domestic political miscalculations heading into 2024 and 2028.
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