Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Aug 7, 2025

What Google Zero Means for Journalism

On Tech Won’t Save Us: the AI monster comes for the news. With guest Matt Pearce.

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What Google Zero Means for Journalism | Tech Won’t Save Us
byThe Nation Magazine

Paris Marx is joined by Matt Pearce to discuss how Google’s use of generative AI is sending far less traffic to all manner of websites, but especially news publications, and what that might mean for the future of journalism.

Matt Pearce is Director of Policy at Rebuild Local News and a former reporter at the Los Angeles Times.

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In this photo illustration, a Google AI logo is seen displayed on a smartphone with an Apple Siri logo in the background.

In this photo illustration, a Google AI logo is seen displayed on a smartphone with an Apple Siri logo in the background.

(Photo Illustration by Avishek Das/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images)

Paris Marx is joined by Matt Pearce to discuss how Google’s use of generative AI is sending far less traffic to all manner of websites, but especially news publications, and what that might mean for the future of journalism.

Matt Pearce is director of policy at Rebuild Local News and a former reporter at the Los Angeles Times.

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Data Center Opposition Is Uniting Communities w/ Saul Levin / Tech Won’t Save Us
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As tech companies race to build hyperscale data centers, communities are coming together to push back. Saul Levin joins Paris Marx to discuss how rising opposition to data center construction is uniting people across party lines and prompting broader conversations around what infrastructure people want instead.

Saul Levin is a community organizer and host of The Hum.

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Paris Marx is a tech critic and host of the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast. He writes the Disconnect newsletter and is the author of Road to Nowhere: What Silicon Valley Gets Wrong about the Future of Transportation.

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