What Google Zero Means for Journalism
On Tech Won’t Save Us: the AI monster comes for the news. With guest Matt Pearce.

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Paris Marx is joined by Matt Pearce to discuss how Google’s use of generative AI is sending far less traffic to all manner of websites, but especially news publications, and what that might mean for the future of journalism.
Matt Pearce is Director of Policy at Rebuild Local News and a former reporter at the Los Angeles Times.
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In this photo illustration, a Google AI logo is seen displayed on a smartphone with an Apple Siri logo in the background.
(Photo Illustration by Avishek Das/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images)Paris Marx is joined by Matt Pearce to discuss how Google’s use of generative AI is sending far less traffic to all manner of websites, but especially news publications, and what that might mean for the future of journalism.
Matt Pearce is director of policy at Rebuild Local News and a former reporter at the Los Angeles Times.
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Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
Paris Marx is joined by Cam Wilson to discuss the new social media age limit in Australia, including how successful the rollout has been so far and the missed opportunities of taking a more nuanced regulatory approach.
Cam Wilson is an associate editor at Crikey and writes The Sizzle newsletter. He’s a co-author of Conspiracy Nation: Exposing the Dangerous World of Australian Conspiracy Theories.
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