Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Jun 25, 2026

Data Center Opposition Is Uniting Communities—With Saul Levin

Saul Levin joins Paris Marx to discuss how rising opposition to data center construction is uniting people across party lines.

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Data Center Opposition Is Uniting Communities w/ Saul Levin / Tech Won’t Save Us
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As tech companies race to build hyperscale data centers, communities are coming together to push back. Saul Levin joins Paris Marx to discuss how rising opposition to data center construction is uniting people across party lines and prompting broader conversations around what infrastructure people want instead.

Saul Levin is a community organizer and host of The Hum.

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Concerned Rockland County residents joined members of Food & Water Watch, Indivisible Rockland and the Bi-State Data Center Crisis Coalition of NY/NJ outside the Orangetown Town Hall building in Orangeburg, New York.

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As tech companies race to build “hyperscale” data centers, communities are coming together to push back. Saul Levin joins Paris Marx to discuss how rising opposition to data center construction is uniting people across party lines and prompting broader conversations around what infrastructure people want instead.

Saul Levin is a community organizer and host of The Hum.

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The RAM Crisis is Coming for All Your Tech w/ Chris Person / Tech Won’t Save Us
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Public ire toward AI keeps growing as the data center boom continues to hit people’s pockets. Chris Person joins Paris Marx to discuss the soaring cost of consumer electronics, including why prices are unlikely to fall anytime soon, and how people can experiment with homespun cyberpunk tech.

Chris Person is a co-founder of Aftermath and makes Highlight Reel.

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Paris Marx

Paris Marx is the author of Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech's Data Empires. He hosts the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast and writes the Disconnect newsletter.

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