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Elie Mystal, Joan Walsh, and Chris Lehmann on Trump and His 34 Felonies

On this episode of Start Making Sense, we feature highlights of The Nation’s roundtable on Trump’s arraignment, plus the story of SOLA, the School of Leadership Afghanistan.

Jon Wiener and Start Making Sense

April 13, 2023

Former US president Donald Trump appears in a Manhattan court during his arraignment on April 4, 2023, in New York City. (Seth Wenig / Pool / Getty Images)

The question with Donald Trump and his 34 felonies: Can he really be brought to justice for paying off Stormy Daniels? On this week’s Start Making Sense, we feature highlights of The Nation’s roundtable discussion with justice correspondent Elie Mystal, national affairs correspondent Joan Walsh, and D.C. Bureau Chief Chris Lehmann.

Also this week, we have a discussion of Afghan girls who escaped from the Taliban. It’s the story of a boarding school that evacuated its students from Kabul during the chaotic withdrawal of the Americans. SOLA, the School of Leadership Afghanistan is the place where Afghan girls study to become members of the generation that will one day lead a peaceful and united Afghanistan. The founder, Shabana Basij-Rasikh, explains.

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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