What’s Next for Trump and Biden After This Wild Week?
On this episode of See How They Run, D.D. Guttenplan and John Nichols on seven unprecedented days in US political history.

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Former US President Donald Trump arrives to speak during the Republican National Convention (RNC) at the Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US, on Thursday, July 18, 2024.
(Hannah Beier / Bloomberg via Getty Images)What a week. In just the past seven days, an assassin’s bullet almost killed Donald Trump, Joe Biden got Covid, Democrats continued to melt down over whether to replace Biden at the top of their ticket, and Republicans gathered in Milwaukee to crown Trump as their party’s nominee. It’s been an overwhelming, unprecedented period in our political history. But it’s this podcast’s job to try to make sense of this chaos for you. So today on See How They Run, Nation editor D.D. Guttenplan and national affairs correspondent John Nichols do just that.

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On this final episode of The Nation's election coverage podcast, See How They Run, D.D. Guttenplan is joined by John Nichols and Jeet Heer to discuss lessons learned from the 2024 Presidential races.
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