Podcast / See How They Run / Jul 4, 2024

What Should the Democrats Do Now?

On this episode of See How They Run, Jeet Heer and John Nichols discuss President Biden’s post-debate crisis and where the Democratic Party goes from here.

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What Should The Democrats Do Now? | See How They Run
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On this episode of See How They Run, D.D. Guttenplan is joined by Nation political correspondents, Jeet Heer and John Nichols to discuss President Biden’s post-debate crisis and where the Democratic party goes from here.

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President Joe Biden looks on as he participates in the first presidential debate of the 2024 elections with former US President and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, on June 27, 2024.

(Photo by ANDREW (Andrew Caballero-Reynolds / AFP via Getty Images)

Ever since the fallout from Joe Biden’s cataclysmic debate performance, the Democratic Party has been spiraled into an unprecedented crisis.

On this episode of See How They Run, The Nation’s own John Nichols and Jeet Heer are on the show to discuss how Democrats got themselves into this disaster, and how they can get themselves–and the rest of us—out of it.

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D.D. Guttenplan

D.D. Guttenplan is a special correspondent for The Nation and the host of The Nation Podcast. He served as editor of the magazine from 2019 to 2025 and, prior to that, as an editor at large and London correspondent. His books include American Radical: The Life and Times of I.F. Stone, The Nation: A Biography, and The Next Republic: The Rise of a New Radical Majority.

Jeet Heer

Jeet Heer is a national affairs correspondent for The Nation and host of the weekly Nation podcast, The Time of Monsters. He also pens the monthly column “Morbid Symptoms.” The author of In Love with Art: Francoise Mouly’s Adventures in Comics with Art Spiegelman (2013) and Sweet Lechery: Reviews, Essays and Profiles (2014), Heer has written for numerous publications, including The New Yorker, The Paris Review, Virginia Quarterly Review, The American Prospect, The GuardianThe New Republic, and The Boston Globe.

John Nichols

John Nichols is the executive editor of The Nation. He previously served as the magazine’s national affairs correspondent and Washington correspondent. Nichols has written, cowritten, or edited over a dozen books on topics ranging from histories of American socialism and the Democratic Party to analyses of US and global media systems. His latest, cowritten with Senator Bernie Sanders, is the New York Times bestseller It's OK to Be Angry About Capitalism.

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