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Does Trump’s Conviction Change Anything?

On this episode of See How They Run, Joan Walsh and Jeet Heer on what Donald Trump’s 34-count felony conviction means for the 2024 election.

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Does Trump’s Conviction Change Anything? | See How They Run
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On this episode of See How They Run, D.D. Guttenplan is joined by The Nation's Joan Walsh and Jeet Heer for a roundtable discussion about the fallout from Donald Trump's felony conviction in New York. What will the guilty verdict mean for Trump's chances in November? How should the Democrats respond to the conviction? And will any of this ultimately matter?

Joan Walsh, a national affairs correspondent for The Nation, is a coproducer of The Sit-In: Harry Belafonte Hosts The Tonight Show and the author of What’s the Matter With White People? Finding Our Way in the Next America. Her latest book (with Nick Hanauer and Donald Cohen) is Corporate Bullsh*t: Exposing the Lies and Half-Truths That Protect Profit, Power and Wealth In America.

Jeet Heer is a national affairs correspondent for The Nation and host of the weekly Nation podcast, The Time of Monsters. He also pens the monthly column “Morbid Symptoms” and is the author of In Love with Art: Francoise Mouly’s Adventures in Comics with Art Spiegelman (2013) and Sweet Lechery: Reviews, Essays and Profiles (2014).

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Former President Donald Trump walks out of the courtroom at the conclusion of his hush money trial at Manhattan Criminal Court, on May 30, 2024.

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On this episode of See How They Run, we’re joined by The Nation’s Joan Walsh and Jeet Heer for a roundtable discussion about the fallout from Donald Trump’s felony conviction in New York. What will the guilty verdict mean for Trump’s chances in November? How should the Democrats respond to the conviction? And will any of this ultimately matter?

Joan Walsh, a national affairs correspondent for The Nation, is a coproducer of The Sit-In: Harry Belafonte Hosts The Tonight Show and the author of What’s the Matter With White People? Finding Our Way in the Next America. Her latest book (with Nick Hanauer and Donald Cohen) is Corporate Bullsh*t: Exposing the Lies and Half-Truths That Protect Profit, Power and Wealth In America.

Jeet Heer is a national affairs correspondent for The Nation and host of the weekly Nation podcast The Time of Monsters. He also pens the monthly column “Morbid Symptoms” and is the author of In Love with Art: Francoise Mouly’s Adventures in Comics with Art Spiegelman (2013) and Sweet Lechery: Reviews, Essays and Profiles (2014).

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D.D. Guttenplan

D.D. Guttenplan is a special correspondent for The Nation and the former host of The Nation Podcast. He served as editor of the magazine from 2019 to 2025 and, prior to that, as an editor at large and London correspondent. His books include American Radical: The Life and Times of I.F. Stone, The Nation: A Biography, and The Next Republic: The Rise of a New Radical Majority.

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