Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Feb 20, 2025

How DOGE Is Remaking the US Government

In this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, Makena Kelly on DOGE, government employees, and the American public.

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How DOGE is Remaking the US Government w/ Makena Kelly | Tech Won’t Save Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Makena Kelly to discuss how Elon Musk’s DOGE is reshaping the US government and the consequences that has for government employees and the wider public. 

Makena Kelly is a senior writer at WIRED and writes the weekly Politics Lab newsletter.

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A protestor holds a sign during a rally against Donald Trump and Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) in New York City on February 19, 2025.

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On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, we are joined by Makena Kelly to discuss how Elon Musk’s DOGE is reshaping the US government and the consequences that has for government employees and the wider public.

Makena Kelly is a senior writer at Wired and writes the weekly Politics Lab newsletter.

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The UK Government’s AI Obsession Is a Big Risk w/ Will Dunn / Tech Won’t Save Us
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What happens when a government goes all in on AI? It creates some huge vulnerabilities. Will Dunn joins Paris Marx to dig into how the UK government is using chatbots to write laws without public consultation and why it isn’t asking the hard questions about the risks of that growing reliance on US technology.

Will Dunn is the business editor at the New Statesman.

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