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How DOGE Is Remaking the US Government

In this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, Makena Kelly on DOGE, government employees, and the American public.

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How DOGE is Remaking the US Government w/ Makena Kelly | Tech Won’t Save Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Makena Kelly to discuss how Elon Musk’s DOGE is reshaping the US government and the consequences that has for government employees and the wider public. 

Makena Kelly is a senior writer at WIRED and writes the weekly Politics Lab newsletter.

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A protestor holds a sign during a rally against Donald Trump and Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) in New York City on February 19, 2025.

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On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, we are joined by Makena Kelly to discuss how Elon Musk’s DOGE is reshaping the US government and the consequences that has for government employees and the wider public.

Makena Kelly is a senior writer at Wired and writes the weekly Politics Lab newsletter.

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Taking Data Centers to Court w/ Martha Dark / Tech Won’t Save Us
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Data centers are being approved without proper oversight into their broader impacts, but there are organizations pushing back. Martha Dark joins Paris Marx to discuss her work at Foxglove and how legal challenges against data centers are imposing stronger rules and reframing false narratives from policymakers and Big Tech.

Martha Dark is co-executive director of Foxglove.

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