David Nasaw on Biden’s “Disgraceful” Ukrainian Refugee Policy and Katha Pollitt on What Abortion Opponents Are Really Thinking

David Nasaw on Biden’s “Disgraceful” Ukrainian Refugee Policy and Katha Pollitt on What Abortion Opponents Are Really Thinking

On this week’s episode, Nation contributor Nasaw gives bad marks to the president’s “new and improved” approach to asylum seekers, and columnist Pollitt reveals what we’re getting wrong about opponents to abortion.

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President Joe Biden’s “new and improved” procedure for admitting Ukrainian refugees to the United States is “disgraceful.” Historian and Nation contributor David Nasaw joins us to discuss the shortcomings of the policy, and how it excludes all asylum seekers who aren’t white and European.

Also: Abortion and its opponents. Do opponents of abortion really believe abortion providers are “baby-killers”? There’s some new research about that found opponents help family members and friends get abortions. Katha Pollitt explains.

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Jon Wiener Jon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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