On this episode of Tech Won't Save Us: Ketan Joshi on how data centers are a climate justice issue.
Cooling vent fans are seen on the roof of a Digital Realty data center in Ashburn, Virginia. on November 12, 2025. (Andrew Caballero-Reynolds / AFP via Getty Images)
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Paris Marx is joined by Ketan Joshi to discuss how hyperscale data centers are fueling the consumption of more oil and gas, what that means for climate targets, and the insidious relationship between the tech and fossil fuel industries.
Ketan Joshi is a climate writer and data analyst based in Oslo working with climate and environmental groups.
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Paris Marx is joined by Ketan Joshi to discuss how hyperscale data centers are fueling the consumption of more oil and gas, what that means for climate targets, and the insidious relationship between the tech and fossil fuel industries.
Ketan Joshi is a climate writer and data analyst based in Oslo working with climate and environmental groups.
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Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
Data centers are being approved without proper oversight into their broader impacts, but there are organizations pushing back. Martha Dark joins Paris Marx to discuss her work at Foxglove and how legal challenges against data centers are imposing stronger rules and reframing false narratives from policymakers and Big Tech.
Martha Dark is co-executive director of Foxglove.
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Paris MarxParis Marx is the author of Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech's Data Empires. He hosts the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast and writes the Disconnect newsletter.