Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Oct 2, 2025

The Growing Divide Between MAGA and Big Tech

On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us: Tina Nguyen on the fundamental distrust between MAGA and Big Tech.

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The Growing Divide Between MAGA and Big Tech w/ Tina Nguyen | Tech Won’t Save Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Tina Nguyen to discuss the divisions within the American far-right between the Trump administration, the wider MAGA movement, and the tech executives trying to show they’re on their side.

Tina Nguyen is a senior reporter at The Verge and author of The MAGA Diaries: My Surreal Adventures Inside the Right-Wing (And How I Got Out).

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Mark Zuckerberg speaks as Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and Bill Gates listen during a dinner at the White House on September 4, 2025 in Washington, DC.

Mark Zuckerberg speaks as Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and Bill Gates listen during a dinner at the White House on September 4, 2025 in Washington, DC.

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Paris Marx is joined by Tina Nguyen to discuss the divisions within the American far right between the Trump administration, the wider MAGA movement, and the tech executives trying to show they’re on board.

Tina Nguyen is a senior reporter at The Verge and author of The MAGA Diaries: Life Among the Fanatics, Extremists, and True Believers that Created the Modern Right.

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The RAM Crisis is Coming for All Your Tech w/ Chris Person / Tech Won’t Save Us
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Public ire toward AI keeps growing as the data center boom continues to hit people’s pockets. Chris Person joins Paris Marx to discuss the soaring cost of consumer electronics, including why prices are unlikely to fall anytime soon, and how people can experiment with homespun cyberpunk tech.

Chris Person is a co-founder of Aftermath and makes Highlight Reel.

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Paris Marx is the author of Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech's Data Empires. He hosts the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast and writes the Disconnect newsletter.

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