Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Oct 2, 2025

The Growing Divide Between MAGA and Big Tech

On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us: Tina Nguyen on the fundamental distrust between MAGA and Big Tech.

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The Growing Divide Between MAGA and Big Tech w/ Tina Nguyen | Tech Won’t Save Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Tina Nguyen to discuss the divisions within the American far-right between the Trump administration, the wider MAGA movement, and the tech executives trying to show they’re on their side.

Tina Nguyen is a senior reporter at The Verge and author of The MAGA Diaries: My Surreal Adventures Inside the Right-Wing (And How I Got Out).

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Mark Zuckerberg speaks as Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and Bill Gates listen during a dinner at the White House on September 4, 2025 in Washington, DC.

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Paris Marx is joined by Tina Nguyen to discuss the divisions within the American far right between the Trump administration, the wider MAGA movement, and the tech executives trying to show they’re on board.

Tina Nguyen is a senior reporter at The Verge and author of The MAGA Diaries: Life Among the Fanatics, Extremists, and True Believers that Created the Modern Right.

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Saudi Arabia is Using Games to Improve Its Image w/ Nathan Grayson | Tech Won’t Save Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Nathan Grayson to discuss how Saudi Arabia is buying its way into the sports, comedy, and video game industries in order to broaden its investment portfolio and launder its international reputation.

Nathan Grayson is a cofounder of Aftermath and the author of Stream Big: The Triumphs and Turmoils of Twitch and the Stars Behind the Screen.

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Paris Marx is a tech critic and host of the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast. He writes the Disconnect newsletter and is the author of Road to Nowhere: What Silicon Valley Gets Wrong about the Future of Transportation.

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