AI Hype Enters Its Geopolitics Era
On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, Timnit Gebru on AI’s new role in the geopolitical world.

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Paris Marx is joined by Timnit Gebru to discuss where the AI industry stands in 2025 as AI increasingly becomes a geopolitical football even as the big promises made by AI companies fail to materialize.
Timnit Gebru is the founder and executive director of the Distributed AI Research Institute.
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Kate Rooney and Kevin Weil, CPO, OpenAI, speak onstage during the HumanX AI Conference 2025 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas on March 10, 2025 in Las Vegas, Nevada.
(Big Event Media / Getty Images for HumanX Conference)On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, we’re joined by Timnit Gebru to discuss where the AI industry stands in 2025 as AI increasingly becomes a geopolitical football even as the big promises made by AI companies fail to materialize.
Timnit Gebru is the founder and executive director of the Distributed AI Research Institute.

Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
What happens when a government goes all in on AI? It creates some huge vulnerabilities. Will Dunn joins Paris Marx to dig into how the UK government is using chatbots to write laws without public consultation and why it isn’t asking the hard questions about the risks of that growing reliance on US technology.
Will Dunn is the business editor at the New Statesman.
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