Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Mar 13, 2025

AI Hype Enters Its Geopolitics Era

On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, Timnit Gebru on AI’s new role in the geopolitical world.

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AI Hype Enters Its Geopolitics Era w/ Timnit Gebru | Tech Won’t Save Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Timnit Gebru to discuss where the AI industry stands in 2025 as AI increasingly becomes a geopolitical football even as the big promises made by AI companies fail to materialize.

Timnit Gebru is the founder and executive director of the Distributed AI Research Institute.

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Kate Rooney and Kevin Weil, CPO, OpenAI, speak onstage during the HumanX AI Conference 2025 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas on March 10, 2025 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

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On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, we’re joined by Timnit Gebru to discuss where the AI industry stands in 2025 as AI increasingly becomes a geopolitical football even as the big promises made by AI companies fail to materialize.

Timnit Gebru is the founder and executive director of the Distributed AI Research Institute.

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How Mass Layoffs Changed Working in Tech w/ Clarissa Redwine & JS Tan / Tech Won’t Save Us
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Not long ago, tech jobs were sought after for their security, benefits, wages, and the progressive values promoted by Silicon Valley companies. But now workers are barely hanging on. Clarissa Redwine and JS Tan join Paris Marx to discuss the state of worker organizing in the tech industry, including how it’s changed since the mid-2010s and where it needs to go from here.

Clarissa Redwine is a tech worker and labor activist. JS Tan is a PhD candidate at MIT and writes the Value Added newsletter. They are the authors of Against Tech Oligarchy: Worker Resistance in the World's Most Powerful Industry.

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Paris Marx is the author of Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech's Data Empires. He hosts the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast and writes the Disconnect newsletter.

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