Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Mar 13, 2025

AI Hype Enters Its Geopolitics Era

On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, Timnit Gebru on AI’s new role in the geopolitical world.

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AI Hype Enters Its Geopolitics Era w/ Timnit Gebru | Tech Won’t Save Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Timnit Gebru to discuss where the AI industry stands in 2025 as AI increasingly becomes a geopolitical football even as the big promises made by AI companies fail to materialize.

Timnit Gebru is the founder and executive director of the Distributed AI Research Institute.

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Kate Rooney and Kevin Weil, CPO, OpenAI, speak onstage during the HumanX AI Conference 2025 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas on March 10, 2025 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

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On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, we’re joined by Timnit Gebru to discuss where the AI industry stands in 2025 as AI increasingly becomes a geopolitical football even as the big promises made by AI companies fail to materialize.

Timnit Gebru is the founder and executive director of the Distributed AI Research Institute.

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Taking Data Centers to Court w/ Martha Dark / Tech Won’t Save Us
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Data centers are being approved without proper oversight into their broader impacts, but there are organizations pushing back. Martha Dark joins Paris Marx to discuss her work at Foxglove and how legal challenges against data centers are imposing stronger rules and reframing false narratives from policymakers and Big Tech.

Martha Dark is co-executive director of Foxglove.

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Paris Marx is the author of Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech's Data Empires. He hosts the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast and writes the Disconnect newsletter.

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