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How Trump Swallowed the GOP Whole

On this episode of See How They Run, John Nichols and Jeff Sharlet on how Trump bent the GOP and the Christian nationalist movement to his will.

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How Trump Swallowed The GOP Whole | See How They Run
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On this episode of See How They Run, D.D. Guttenplan is joined by John Nichols to discuss how Donald Trump turned the Republican Party into a supine extension of his own political ambitions. Then, Jeff Sharlet takes us through the Christian nationalist movement's embrace of Trump, and how their partnership risks plunging us into a fascist future.

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Former president Donald Trump delivers remarks during the Georgia state GOP convention on June 10, 2023.

Former president Donald Trump delivers remarks during the Georgia state GOP convention on June 10, 2023.

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On this episode of See How They Run, D.D. Guttenplan is joined by John Nichols to discuss how Donald Trump turned the Republican Party into a supine extension of his own political ambitions. Then, Jeff Sharlet takes us through the Christian nationalist movement’s embrace of Trump, and how their partnership risks plunging us into a fascist future.

John Nichols is a national affairs correspondent at The Nation and the author of over a dozen books, including his latest, It’s OK to Be Angry About Capitalism, cowritten with Senator Bernie Sanders.

Jeff Sharlet is a professor at Dartmouth College and the New York Times best-selling author or editor of eight books. His latest is The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War.

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D.D. Guttenplan

D.D. Guttenplan is a special correspondent for The Nation and the former host of The Nation Podcast. He served as editor of the magazine from 2019 to 2025 and, prior to that, as an editor at large and London correspondent. His books include American Radical: The Life and Times of I.F. Stone, The Nation: A Biography, and The Next Republic: The Rise of a New Radical Majority.

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