Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Apr 23, 2026

The Problem With “CEO Said a Thing” Journalism—With Karl Bode

Paris Marx and Karl Bode discuss how tech journalists and corporate interests are irresponsibly raising the profile of tech CEOs, damaging public trust in institutional journalism.

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The Problem with “CEO Said a Thing” Journalism w/ Karl Bode | Tech Won’t Save Us
byThe Nation Magazine

Paris Marx is joined by Karl Bode to discuss how tech journalists coupled with corporate interests are irresponsibly boosting the profile of tech CEOs, further damaging public trust in institutional journalism and highlighting the need for publicly funded media organizations.

Karl Bode is a freelance reporter and writes The Fine Print newsletter.

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Elon Musk, chief executive officer of Tesla Inc., during the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland, on Thursday, Jan. 22, 2026.

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Paris Marx is joined by Karl Bode to discuss how tech journalists, coupled with corporate interests, are irresponsibly boosting the profile of tech CEOs, further damaging public trust in institutional journalism, and highlighting the need for publicly funded media organizations. Karl Bode is a freelance reporter and writes the newsletter The Fine Print.

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The People Versus Big Oil w/ Jamie Henn / Fighting Fascism
byThe Nation Magazine

In recent weeks, we’ve seen our skies engulfed in dystopian haze. We’ve had lethal heat waves ruin our Fourth of July cookouts. States have announced emergency water rationing due to record-breaking droughts. Tens of thousands of Europeans have been killed by extreme heat so far this summer; hundreds of thousands are being evacuated by apocalyptic wildfires. And we know it’s just the beginning—this is, after all, not just the hottest summer of our lives, but the coolest summer for the rest of our lives.

This didn’t just happen. Climate change is overwhelmingly the result of pollution and deception from specific Big Oil companies that were predicting decades ago that their fossil fuels would cause, in their own words, “globally catastrophic” climate harms that would create “more violent weather” and cause “suffering and death due to thermal extremes.” Even as they used this knowledge to protect their own infrastructure, they orchestrated fraudulent campaigns of climate denial to lock us into the disasters we are currently experiencing.

But we’re not powerless in the face of these nightmares. We can take on Big Oil, and the fossil-fueled authoritarianism that these corporations have done so much to engender. And there are few people with more experience in these fights than Jamie Henn, director of Fossil Free Media. He joined us for a great conversation about making polluters pay, the ways clean energy developments have totally transformed the climate fight, and how to balance hope and fear in the midsts of climate chaos.

Fighting Fascism Podcast is produced by Nik Damants in collaboration with The Nation.

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Paris Marx

Paris Marx is the author of Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech's Data Empires. He hosts the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast and writes the Disconnect newsletter.

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