The Growing Divide Between MAGA and Big Tech
On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us: Tina Nguyen on the fundamental distrust between MAGA and Big Tech.

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Paris Marx is joined by Tina Nguyen to discuss the divisions within the American far-right between the Trump administration, the wider MAGA movement, and the tech executives trying to show they’re on their side.
Tina Nguyen is a senior reporter at The Verge and author of The MAGA Diaries: My Surreal Adventures Inside the Right-Wing (And How I Got Out).
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Mark Zuckerberg speaks as Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and Bill Gates listen during a dinner at the White House on September 4, 2025 in Washington, DC.
(Alex Wong / Getty Images)Paris Marx is joined by Tina Nguyen to discuss the divisions within the American far right between the Trump administration, the wider MAGA movement, and the tech executives trying to show they’re on board.
Tina Nguyen is a senior reporter at The Verge and author of The MAGA Diaries: Life Among the Fanatics, Extremists, and True Believers that Created the Modern Right.
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Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
Not long ago, tech jobs were sought after for their security, benefits, wages, and the progressive values promoted by Silicon Valley companies. But now workers are barely hanging on. Clarissa Redwine and JS Tan join Paris Marx to discuss the state of worker organizing in the tech industry, including how it’s changed since the mid-2010s and where it needs to go from here.
Clarissa Redwine is a tech worker and labor activist. JS Tan is a PhD candidate at MIT and writes the Value Added newsletter. They are the authors of Against Tech Oligarchy: Worker Resistance in the World's Most Powerful Industry.
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