Who Are the Shooters?
On this episode of The Time of Monsters: Ken Klippenstein on the complexity of political violence.
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Who Are the Shooters? w/ Ken Klippenstein | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
The United States continues to be roiled by political violence, with the recent shooting at an ICE
facility in Dallas coming hot on the heels of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a school
shooting in Colorado committed by a neo-Nazi. Some of the best reporting on these events has
been done by Ken Klippenstein for his Substack. I spoke with Ken about what he’s discovered
when he interviewed those who knew the alleged shooters, how his findings go against the
simplistic partisan interpretations offered by both the left and right, as well as the dangerous
ways the Trump administration is using the shootings for a crackdown on civil liberties.
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The FBI investigates on a rooftop near the scene where a shooter opened fire on an ICE facility, September 24, 2025 in Dallas, Texas.
(Stewart F. House via Getty Images)The United States continues to be roiled by political violence, with the recent shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas coming hot on the heels of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a school shooting in Colorado committed by a neo-Nazi. Some of the best reporting on these events has been done by Ken Klippenstein for his Substack. I spoke with Ken about what he’s discovered when he interviewed those who knew the alleged shooters, how his findings go against the simplistic partisan interpretations offered by both the left and right, as well as the dangerous ways the Trump administration is using the shootings for a crackdown on civil liberties.
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Why Big Oil Wants to Splinter Canada w/ Nora Loreto / The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
The issue of Canada’s national unity is heading towards the ballot box as Alberta is having a referendum on the issue of separatism. I spoke with Canadian journalist Nora Loreto about the background to this dispute, the backing the referendum is receiving from right-wing US political actors such as Steve Bannon and lobbyists connected to the oil industry. The discussion also takes up the role of Prime Minister Mark Carney, who is using the crisis to push a neoliberal agenda. For more commentary by Nora, you can go to the podcast Sandy and Nora Talk Politics, which is found here.
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