Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Sep 25, 2025

Is Tesla Still a Car Company?

On Tech Won’t Save Us: Ed Niedermeyer on Elon Musk’s trillionaire ambitions and Tesla’s EV decline.

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Is Tesla Still a Car Company? w/ Ed Niedermeyer | Tech Won’t Save Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Ed Niedermeyer to discuss the mission to turn Elon Musk into the world’s first trillionaire, Tesla’s growing interest in making robots instead of cars, and how other automakers are coming for the EV market it once dominated.

Ed Niedermeyer is the author of ⁠Ludicrous⁠ and co-host of the ⁠Autonocast⁠.

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A Tesla Bot is seen during the World Artificial Intelligence Conference in Shanghai on July 28, 2025.

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Paris Marx is joined by Ed Niedermeyer to discuss the mission to turn Elon Musk into the world’s first trillionaire, Tesla’s growing interest in making robots instead of cars, and how other automakers are coming for the EV market it once dominated.

Ed Niedermeyer is the author of ⁠Ludicrous⁠ and cohost of the ⁠Autonocast⁠.

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Why Communities Want to Stop Flock Cameras w/ Jason Koebler / Tech Won’t Save Us
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No one is comfortable with police surveillance in the US, which is why there’s a bipartisan backlash to Flock cameras. Jason Koebler joins Paris Marx to discuss the rise of Flock, how their cameras are being pitched by right-wing politicians and police agencies, and how they’re being used to stalk residents from coast to coast.

Jason Koebler is a co-founder of 404 Media and co-host of the 404 Media Podcast.

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Paris Marx is the author of Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech's Data Empires. He hosts the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast and writes the Disconnect newsletter.

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