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How DOGE Is Remaking the US Government

In this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, Makena Kelly on DOGE, government employees, and the American public.

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How DOGE is Remaking the US Government w/ Makena Kelly | Tech Won’t Save Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Makena Kelly to discuss how Elon Musk’s DOGE is reshaping the US government and the consequences that has for government employees and the wider public. 

Makena Kelly is a senior writer at WIRED and writes the weekly Politics Lab newsletter.

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A protestor holds a sign during a rally against Donald Trump and Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) in New York City on February 19, 2025.

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On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, we are joined by Makena Kelly to discuss how Elon Musk’s DOGE is reshaping the US government and the consequences that has for government employees and the wider public.

Makena Kelly is a senior writer at Wired and writes the weekly Politics Lab newsletter.

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Tech Fascism Has Come for American Democracy w/ Gil Durán / Tech Won’t Save Us
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A cult of fascist ideology has gripped Silicon Valley, and the tech industrial complex is threatening US democracy. Gil Durán joins Paris Marx to discuss the radical billionaire cabal that is hellbent on the consolidation of corporate and political power, including the visions they have for the future and the strategies they’re using to drive us there.

Gil Durán is the author of The Nerd Reich: Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy and writes The Nerd Reich newsletter. 

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