Paris Marx talks to Ketan Joshi about how the data center buildout is driving a surge in fossil fuel investment, and how it’s all playing out in Australia.
The NEXTDC data center in the northern Canberra suburb of Bruce, Australia, on August 26, 2026. (Zhang Na / Xinhua via Getty Images)
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Tech companies are working with the fossil fuel industry to push unnecessary data center projects while misrepresenting the climate impact — and governments are letting it all happen. Ketan Joshi joins Paris Marx to discuss how the data center buildout is driving a surge in fossil fuel investment, and how it’s all playing out in Australia.
Ketan Joshi is a climate writer and data analyst based in Oslo working with climate and environmental groups.
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Tech companies are working with the fossil fuel industry to push unnecessary data center projects while misrepresenting the climate impact—and governments are letting it all happen. Ketan Joshi joins Paris Marx to discuss how the data center buildout is driving a surge in fossil fuel investment, and how it’s all playing out in Australia.
Ketan Joshi is a climate writer and data analyst based in Oslo working with climate and environmental groups.
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Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
Tech companies are working with the fossil fuel industry to push unnecessary data center projects while misrepresenting the climate impact — and governments are letting it all happen. Ketan Joshi joins Paris Marx to discuss how the data center buildout is driving a surge in fossil fuel investment, and how it’s all playing out in Australia.
Ketan Joshi is a climate writer and data analyst based in Oslo working with climate and environmental groups.
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Paris MarxParis Marx is the author of Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech's Data Empires. He hosts the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast and writes the Disconnect newsletter.