Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Jul 30, 2026

How Cloud Giants Wield Their Power Against Us All—With Cecilia Rikap

Paris Marx talks to Cecilia Rikap about how networks of corporate power systematically influence global politics and the economy.

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How Cloud Giants Wield Their Power Against Us All w/ Cecilia Rikap / Tech Won’t Save Us
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As the power of big tech continues to grow, it's more important than ever to understand how these companies use infrastructure and intellectual monopolies to shape more than just the digital world. Cecilia Rikap joins Paris Marx to discuss how these networks of corporate power operate, including how they are systematically used to influence global politics, the economy, and how society views the world.

Cecilia Rikap is an Associate Professor at University College London’s Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose and the author of The Rulers: Corporate Power in the Age of AI and the Cloud.

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US President Donald Trump, Open AI CEO Sam Altman, and Google DeepMind Demis Hassabis during a meeting of G7 members, partner countries, and artificial intelligence business leaders as part of the G7 summit in eastern France, on June 17, 2026.

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As the power of Big Tech continues to grow, it’s more important than ever to understand how these companies use infrastructure and intellectual monopolies to shape more than just the digital world. Cecilia Rikap joins Paris Marx to discuss how these networks of corporate power operate, including how they are systematically used to influence global politics, the economy, and how society views the world.

Cecilia Rikap is an associate professor at University College London’s Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose and the author of The Rulers: Corporate Power in the Age of AI and the Cloud.

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Government Is Putting AI Before People and the Planet w/ Matt Haugen / Tech Won’t Save Us
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Governments are prioritizing data centers and AI at the expense of communities and the planet, but it doesn’t have to be this way. Matt Haugen joins Paris Marx to discuss the AI First report, which examines how national strategies are dismantling environmental protections and enacting market policies that allow a handful of megacorporations to abscond with billions of dollars, and what an alternative policy agenda focused on people and the planet could achieve instead.

Matt Haugen is Research and Editorial Manager at the Climate and Community Institute.

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Paris Marx

Paris Marx is the author of Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech's Data Empires. He hosts the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast and writes the Disconnect newsletter.

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