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Muskism Is the New Fordism—With Ben Tarnoff & Quinn Slobodian

May 7, 2026

Elon Musk arrives to court at the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building on April 30, 2026, in Oakland, California. (Benjamin Fanjoy / Getty Images)

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Muskism Is the New Fordism w/ Ben Tarnoff & Quinn Slobodian / Tech Won’t Say Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian to discuss their new book Muskism which explores how Elon Musk exemplifies a new economic system shaping our lives, similar to Fordism in the twentieth century.

Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian are the authors of Muskism. Ben is a writer and technologist based in Massachusetts and the author of Internet for the People. Quinn is professor of international history at Boston University, and the author of books like Crack-Up Capitalism.

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Paris Marx is joined by Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian to discuss their new book Muskism, which explores how Elon Musk exemplifies a new economic system shaping our lives, similar to Fordism in the 20th century.

Tarnoff is a writer and technologist based in Massachusetts and the author of Internet for the People. Quinn is a professor of international history at Boston University, and the author of books like Crack-Up Capitalism.

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Data Center Opposition Is Uniting Communities w/ Saul Levin / Tech Won’t Save Us
byThe Nation Magazine

As tech companies race to build hyperscale data centers, communities are coming together to push back. Saul Levin joins Paris Marx to discuss how rising opposition to data center construction is uniting people across party lines and prompting broader conversations around what infrastructure people want instead.

Saul Levin is a community organizer and host of The Hum.

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