Muskism Is the New Fordism—With Ben Tarnoff & Quinn Slobodian
Paris Marx is joined by Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian to discuss their new book Muskism, which explores how Elon Musk exemplifies a new economic system shaping our lives.

Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
Paris Marx is joined by Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian to discuss their new book Muskism which explores how Elon Musk exemplifies a new economic system shaping our lives, similar to Fordism in the twentieth century.
Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian are the authors of Muskism. Ben is a writer and technologist based in Massachusetts and the author of Internet for the People. Quinn is professor of international history at Boston University, and the author of books like Crack-Up Capitalism.
Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Elon Musk arrives to court at the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building on April 30, 2026, in Oakland, California.
(Benjamin Fanjoy / Getty Images)Paris Marx is joined by Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian to discuss their new book Muskism, which explores how Elon Musk exemplifies a new economic system shaping our lives, similar to Fordism in the 20th century.
Tarnoff is a writer and technologist based in Massachusetts and the author of Internet for the People. Quinn is a professor of international history at Boston University, and the author of books like Crack-Up Capitalism.
Subscribe to The Nation to support all of our podcasts: thenation.com/subscribe.

Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
Governments are prioritizing data centers and AI at the expense of communities and the planet, but it doesn’t have to be this way. Matt Haugen joins Paris Marx to discuss the AI First report, which examines how national strategies are dismantling environmental protections and enacting market policies that allow a handful of megacorporations to abscond with billions of dollars, and what an alternative policy agenda focused on people and the planet could achieve instead.
Matt Haugen is Research and Editorial Manager at the Climate and Community Institute.
Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
