The Deep Politics of the Government Shutdown
On this episode of The Time of Monsters: Chris Lehmann on racism, austerity and the Democrats finding courage.
The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
The Time of Monsters podcast features Nation national-affairs correspondent Jeet Heer’s signature blend of political culture and cultural politics. Each week, he’ll host in-depth conversations with urgent voices on the most pressing issues of our time.
The Deep Politics of the Government Shutdown w/ Chris Lehmann
Donald Trump has plunged the nation into another government shutdown. I spoke with my
Nation colleague Chris Lehmann about the larger political stakes. We take up Trump’s shifting
rhetoric, which has started with false and racist claims about undocumented immigrants
receiving benefits and now seems to be about gloating over austerity. We also take up the
Democratic party response, and the way the base of the party has forced the leadership to take
a stronger stance. Chris’ article on the shutdown can be found here.
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Republicans John Thune and Mike Johnson during a news conference at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, on October 3, 2025.
(Graeme Sloan / Bloomberg via Getty Images)Donald Trump has plunged the nation into another government shutdown. I spoke with my Nation colleague Chris Lehmann about the larger political stakes. We take up Trump’s shifting rhetoric, which has started with false and racist claims about undocumented immigrants receiving benefits and now seems to be about gloating over austerity. We also discuss the Democratic Party’s response, and the way the base of the party has forced the leadership to take a stronger stance. Chris’s article on the shutdown can be found here.
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The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer
The Time of Monsters podcast features Nation national-affairs correspondent Jeet Heer’s signature blend of political culture and cultural politics. Each week, he’ll host in-depth conversations with urgent voices on the most pressing issues of our time.
Bombing Iran Won’t Help the Protestors w/ Annelle Sheline
Iran is facing upheavals at home and abroad. For more than two decades, the Islamic republic
has faced waves of protests from citizens demanding a more democratic society. Over the past
two weeks, these protests have erupted with a new ferocity and are being met with violent
repression. Meanwhile, the Israeli government is pushing the United States to renew bombing
Iran, a military objective now being given the guise of a humanitarian mission. To discuss the
turmoil in Iran and place it in the larger context of regional instability and competing visions of
the future of the Middle East, I spoke with Annelle Sheline, a research fellow at The Quincy
Institute who studies the region.
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