It’s getting late to take action about the climate emergency, but it’s not too late: That’s what Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua say in their new book, Not Too Late: Changing the Climate Story from Despair to Possibility. Solnit joins the Start Making Sense podcast to discuss.

Also on this episode of the podcast, John Nichols comments on how the fight for abortion rights will be a key issue for Democrats in the 2024 election, especially after Republican judges have tried to ban medication abortions.

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