John Nichols on the Most Important Election Before 2024, Plus Gregg Gonsalves on the End of the Covid Emergency

John Nichols on the Most Important Election Before 2024, Plus Gregg Gonsalves on the End of the Covid Emergency

On this episode of the Start Making Sense podcast, we talk about this week’s Wisconsin Supreme Court primary, and Joe Biden’s public health disaster.


The most important election of 2023 is in Wisconsin next month, where voters can change the state’s supreme court and end domination by conservatives. They’ve banned abortion and enforced the worst gerrymandering in the nation. John Nichols joins the show to talk about the results of Tuesday’s primary, which look good for Democrats.

Also on this week’s episode: Covid remains the number-three cause of death in the United States, after heart disease and cancer, with almost 3,000 deaths every week. However, Biden and the Democrats are ending the federal Covid emergency. Is that really a good idea? The Nation’s public health correspondent and Yale professor of epidemiologist Gregg Gonsalves comes on to comment.

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