Michele Goodwin on the End of Abortion and Anatol Lieven on Ukraine

Michele Goodwin on the End of Abortion and Anatol Lieven on Ukraine

On this episode of Start Making Sense, we revisit the history of forced pregnancy under the slave regime in antebellum America, and speculate on how the war will end in Ukraine.

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The end of abortion in 26 states will be deadly for many poor women, especially poor women of color. Law professor Michelle Goodwin explains, reviewing the history of forced pregnancy under the slave regime in antebellum America and how it was banned by the 13th Amendment’s prohibition of “involuntary servitude.”

Also: How will the war in Ukraine end? The Russians have failed to install a puppet government there, but the Ukrainians are not going to recover the territory Russia seized in 2014. So some kind of negotiated settlement is necessary, and better sooner than later. Anatol Lieven, author of Ukraine and Russia: A Fraternal Rivalry, joins the podcast to discuss.

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