How Trump’s Fake Electors Scheme Could Become Law, and Remembering Ivana Trump

How Trump’s Fake Electors Scheme Could Become Law, and Remembering Ivana Trump

On this week’s episode of Start Making Sense, Daniel Squadron on state legislatures and Amy Wilentz on Ivanka’s mother.

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The Supreme Court next term will take up a case that could make Trump’s fake electors scheme the law of the land. Daniel Squadron explains the situation—and how winning majorities in state legislatures in swing states is the key to preserving democracy in 2024. Squadron is the cofounder and executive director of the States Project.

Also: Ivana Trump, the mother of Ivanka, Don Junior and Little Eric, died last week—Amy Wilentz comments on her memoir, Raising Trump (first broadcast in 2017).

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