The Amazing Movement Against Data Centers, plus How to Be a Dissident
David Wallace-Wells examines the growing resistance to data centers, while Ami Fields-Meyer explores how dissident movements build courage and power in an age of fear.
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The Amazing Movement Against Data Centers, plus How to be a Dissident / Start Making Sense
Is the resistance to data centers a new kind of mass politics? David Wallace-Wells explains why the answer is “yes.” He’s a writer for The New York Times Opinion pages and author of the unforgettable book “The Uninhabitable Earth.”
Also: How to be a dissident in an age of fear – Ami Fields-Meyer has thought a lot about that. For starters: don’t start from scratch; don’t try to do it alone. Ami is co-author of the new book “On Courage.”
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Demonstrators during a nationwide protest against AI data center expansion in Imperial, California, on July 18, 2026.
(Sandy Huffaker / AFP via Getty Images)On this episode of Start Making Sense, David Wallace-Wells analyzes the new form of protest in America, and Ami Fields-Meyer explains how dissident leaders and movements arise.
Is the resistance to data centers a new kind of mass politics? David Wallace-Wells explains why the answer is “yes.” He’s a writer for The New York Times Opinion pages and author of the unforgettable book The Uninhabitable Earth.
Also: How to be a dissident in an age of fear – Ami Fields-Meyer has thought a lot about that. For starters: don’t start from scratch; don’t try to do it alone. Ami is co-author of the new book On Courage.
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The Nation Podcasts
Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
The Amazing Movement Against Data Centers, plus How to be a Dissident / Start Making Sense
Is the resistance to data centers a new kind of mass politics? David Wallace-Wells explains why the answer is “yes.” He’s a writer for The New York Times Opinion pages and author of the unforgettable book “The Uninhabitable Earth.”
Also: How to be a dissident in an age of fear – Ami Fields-Meyer has thought a lot about that. For starters: don’t start from scratch; don’t try to do it alone. Ami is co-author of the new book “On Courage.”
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Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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