Podcast / Fighting Fascism / Sep 21, 2026

How David Morales Won: Part 1—With Ben Shanahan

David Morales’s campaign manager Ben Shanahan joins Fighting Fascism to discuss the message, organizing strategy, and tactics behind Morales’s primary victory in Providence.

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How David Morales Won: Part 1 w/ Ben Shanahan / Fighting Fascism
byThe Nation Magazine

Two weeks ago, 28-year-old democratic socialist David Morales defeated Providence's incumbent mayor Brett Smiley in the latest electrifying win for the Democratic Party's populist wing. But how did it happen? And how can it be repeated? In the first episode of this two-parter, Aaron and Matt talk to David's campaign manager Ben Shanahan about the message, strategy, and tactics that powered this insurgent victory. Next week, we expand this conversation with David's field director, Jenn Steinfeld, who gives a window into what it looks like to combine electoral campaigns with movement building.

For more analysis on David's win, see Aaron's piece in The Nation: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/david-morales-mayor-race-providence-rhode-island/

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David Morales in Providence, RI, on April 12, 2021.

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Two weeks ago, 28-year-old democratic socialist David Morales defeated Providence’s incumbent mayor, Brett Smiley, in the latest electrifying win for the Democratic Party’s populist wing. But how did it happen? And how can it be repeated? In the first episode of this two-parter, Aaron and Matt talk to David’s campaign manager, Ben Shanahan, about the message, strategy, and tactics that powered this insurgent victory. Next week, we expand this conversation with David’s field director, Jenn Steinfeld, who gives a window into what it looks like to combine electoral campaigns with movement building.

For more analysis on David’s win, see Aaron’s piece in The Nation.

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Dispatch from the Frontlines of the Data Center Wars w/ Ben Inskeep & Bryce Gustafson / Fighting Fascism
byThe Nation Magazine

Data centers and AI, AI and data centers. We all know how pivotal these issues have become. But lots of the analysis on these topics has been coming from pundits who are the farthest removed from them.

That’s why we wanted to speak with Ben Inskeep and Bryce Gustafson from Citizen Action Coalition. Bryce and Ben have been helping communities on the frontlines of data center fights in Indiana organize and stand up against Big Tech, and their on-the-ground insights—about what’s motivating the backlash, the potential for a broader political realignment, and more—are critical to understanding what’s actually going on right now.

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Aaron Regunberg

Aaron Regunberg is a climate lawyer, a contributing editor at The New Republic, and a former Rhode Island state representative.

Matt DaSilva

Matt DaSilva is a co-host of the Fighting Fascism podcast.

Jonathan Smucker

Jonathan Smucker is cofounder and executive director of Popular Comms, a cofounder of Pennsylvania Stands Up, and the author of Hegemony How-To: A Roadmap for Radicals. He has worked for over 25 years as a political organizer, campaigner, and strategist, and has trained thousands of organizers and social movement participants.

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