Trumpism Abroad—With American Prestige
Trumpism Abroad—With “American Prestige”
Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison join us at Fighting Fascism for a wide-ranging crossover on Trumpism, fascism, Iran, Israel, USAID, and the future of Democratic foreign policy.

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That’s right, friends… it’s another crossover episode! We were joined by Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison from American Prestige, a podcast that offers a left analysis on international affairs. Which… we got to eventually (Iran, Israel, USAID, what Democrats’ foreign policy should look like, all the hits)… but only after Daniel and Aaron ended once and for all the age-old debate of: Is Trumpism fascism? All this and more on this banger of a crossover!
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U.S. President Donald Trump gestures next to first lady Melania Trump during UFC Freedom 250 on the South Lawn of the White House.
(Evan Vucci – Pool / Getty Images)That’s right, friends… it’s another crossover episode! We were joined by Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison from American Prestige, a podcast that offers a left analysis on international affairs. Which… we got to eventually (Iran, Israel, USAID, what Democrats’ foreign policy should look like, all the hits)… but only after Daniel and Aaron ended once and for all the age-old debate of: Is Trumpism fascism? All this and more on this banger of a crossover!
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