Podcast / May 1, 2026

FDR, the OG Antifascist—With Eric Rauchway

On Fighting Fascism: What lessons can we learn from FDR’s successes in battling the threat of American fascism in the 1930s?

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FDR, the OG Antifascist w/ Eric Rauchway | Fighting Fascism
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Aaron and Matt are joined by Eric Rauchway, author of Why the New Deal Matters, to discuss America’s OG antifascist, FDR. What lessons can we learn from his successes in battling back the threat of American fascism in the 1930s?

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Aaron and Matt are joined by Eric Rauchway, author of Why the New Deal Matters, to discuss America’s OG antifascist, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. What lessons can we learn from his successes in battling back the threat of American fascism in the 1930s?

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Chud of the Rings w/ Bret Devereaux / Fighting Fascism
byThe Nation Magazine

We all love making fun of fascists. But Dr. Bret Devereaux makes an art of it. Bret is a historian of antiquity and a Tolkien scholar, and he doesn’t suffer fools. He’s been going at it with the world of online chud “historians” — the fascists who say they’re fighting to defend “Western Civilization,” something they’ve never bothered to actually try to understand. And he has similarly choice words for the far right billionaire freaks who idolize, and utterly misunderstand, the Lord of the Rings.

This is a genuinely delightful conversation for nerds like us. But it’s also a serious look into the ways the far right misuses history and literature to advance their fucked up worldviews — and how we can fight back.

Check out Bret’s WONDERFUL blog, A Collection of Unmitigated Pedantry, at acoup.blog.

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Matt DaSilva

Matt DaSilva is a co-host of the Fighting Fascism podcast.

Jonathan Smucker

Jonathan Smucker is cofounder and executive director of Popular Comms, a cofounder of Pennsylvania Stands Up, and the author of Hegemony How-To: A Roadmap for Radicals. He has worked for over 25 years as a political organizer, campaigner, and strategist, and has trained thousands of organizers and social movement participants.

Aaron Regunberg

Aaron Regunberg is a climate lawyer, a contributing editor at The New Republic, and a former Rhode Island state representative.

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