On Tech Won't Save Us: Kate Mackenzie and Tim Sahay on the future of the global energy system.
Solar panels built over aquaculture ponds for shrimp and crab farming in Qingdao West Coast New Area in Shandong Province, China, on August 11, 2025.(Costfoto / NurPhoto via Getty Images)
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Paris Marx is joined by Kate Mackenzie and Tim Sahay to discuss the geopolitics behind China’s investments in green tech and electrification, and how it presents the prospect of a new development model based on renewables instead of fossil fuels.
Kate Mackenzie is an adjunct fellow at Macquarie University. Tim Sahay is co-director of the Net Zero Industrial Policy Lab at Johns Hopkins University. They are the co-writers of the Polycrisis newsletter from Phenomenal World.
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Paris Marx is joined by Kate Mackenzie and Tim Sahay to discuss the geopolitics behind China’s investments in green tech and electrification, and how it presents the prospect of a new development model based on renewables instead of fossil fuels.
Kate Mackenzie is an adjunct fellow at Macquarie University. Tim Sahay is codirector of the Net Zero Industrial Policy Lab at Johns Hopkins University. They are the cowriters of the Polycrisis newsletter from Phenomenal World.
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Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
Paris Marx is joined by Karl Bode to discuss how tech journalists coupled with corporate interests are irresponsibly boosting the profile of tech CEOs, further damaging public trust in institutional journalism and highlighting the need for publicly funded media organizations.
Karl Bode is a freelance reporter and writes The Fine Print newsletter.
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Paris MarxParis Marx is a tech critic and host of the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast. He writes the Disconnect newsletter and is the author of Road to Nowhere: What Silicon Valley Gets Wrong about the Future of Transportation.