Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Mar 13, 2025

AI Hype Enters Its Geopolitics Era

On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, Timnit Gebru on AI’s new role in the geopolitical world.

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AI Hype Enters Its Geopolitics Era w/ Timnit Gebru | Tech Won’t Save Us
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Paris Marx is joined by Timnit Gebru to discuss where the AI industry stands in 2025 as AI increasingly becomes a geopolitical football even as the big promises made by AI companies fail to materialize.

Timnit Gebru is the founder and executive director of the Distributed AI Research Institute.

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Kate Rooney and Kevin Weil, CPO, OpenAI, speak onstage during the HumanX AI Conference 2025 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas on March 10, 2025 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

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On this episode of Tech Won’t Save Us, we’re joined by Timnit Gebru to discuss where the AI industry stands in 2025 as AI increasingly becomes a geopolitical football even as the big promises made by AI companies fail to materialize.

Timnit Gebru is the founder and executive director of the Distributed AI Research Institute.

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Reimagining Our Relationship with Digital Tech w/ Paris Marx
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Paris Marx marks the beginning of 2026 by discussing some of the big themes that will be moving the conversations he’ll be having this year, particularly digital sovereignty and rethinking the value of the tech we admit into our lives.

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Paris Marx is a tech critic and host of the Tech Won’t Save Us podcast. He writes the Disconnect newsletter and is the author of Road to Nowhere: What Silicon Valley Gets Wrong about the Future of Transportation.

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