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How We Defeated Trump on Jimmy Kimmel—Plus, the Attacks on Harvard, Past and Present

On Start Making Sense: Bhaskar Sunkara analyzes the resistance to Trump’s attacks on freedom of speech, and Beverly Gage talks about Anti-intellectualism in American Life.

Jon Wiener

September 24, 2025

Jimmy Kimmel at The Walt Disney Company’s 77th Emmy Awards Party on September 14, 2025, in Los Angeles.(Chad Salvador / Variety via Getty Images)

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How We Defeated Trump on Jimmy Kimmel—plus, the attacks on Harvard | Start Making Sense
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Trump is trying to block speech that criticizes him. Last week began with JD Vance complaining about an article in The Nation that criticized the ideas of Charlie Kirk. Two days after that, ABC suspended Jimmy Kimmel. And a few days after that, a protest movement forced ABC to put him back on the air. Bhaskar Sunkara comments on the fight over freedom of speech – he's president of The Nation Magazine.

Also: Attacking Harvard is not unique to Trump — for decades, indeed for centuries, American politicians have made hay by going after Harvard. Historian Beverely Gage talks about what’s familiar, and what’s new, in Trump’s efforts – based on a reconsideration of Richard Hofstadter’s classic 1963 book “Anti-Intellectualism in American Life.”

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Trump is trying to stop speech that criticizes him and his administration. Last week began with JD Vance complaining about an article in The Nation that criticized the ideas of Charlie Kirk. Two days after that, ABC suspended Jimmy Kimmel. And a few days after that, a protest movement forced ABC to put him back on the air. Bhaskar Sunkara comments on the fight over freedom of speech—he’s president of The Nation magazine.

Also: Attacking Harvard is not unique to Trump. For decades, indeed for centuries, American politicians have made hay by going after Harvard. Historian Beverely Gage talks about what’s familiar, and what’s new, in Trump’s efforts—based on a reconsideration of Richard Hofstadter’s classic 1963 book, Anti-Intellectualism in American Life.

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Trump’s Attacks on Voting, and on Iran / Start Making Sense
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After Senate Democrats block the SAVE act, Trump is likely to declare a national security emergency – claiming China could interfere in the midterms – as a basis for restricting voting. David Cole comments; he’s former legal director of the ACLU.

Also: Congress must challenge Trump’s war on Iran and assert its constitutional duty to take up War Powers resolutions and assert its primacy over matters of war and peace. John Nichols explains.  

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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