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White American Liberals, Part 1

On this episode of American Prestige, Kevin Schultz on his new book.

Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison

May 6, 2025

American President Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882 – 1945) sits at a desk in front of a series of microphones (two labelled NBC and two CBS) as he delivers a ‘Fireside Chat’ radio broadcast, 1930s.(Stock Montage / Getty Images)

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White American Liberals, Pt 1 w/ Kevin Schultz | American Prestige
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Kevin Schultz, Chair of the Department of History at the University of Illinois Chicago, joins the program to talk about his new bookWhy Everyone Hates White Liberals (Including White Liberals): A History. In this first part of the discussion, they get into liberalism’s consistent spirit yet inconsistent character, the transition from progressivism to liberalism in America in the early 20th century, FDR’s use of the word “liberal” as a sort of marketing tool, the height of the “white liberal,” William F. Buckley and the modern American conservative movement, the New Left’s opposition to “the liberal order,” the perception of white liberals in the civil rights movement, and more. 

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On this episode of American Prestige, Kevin Schultz, chair of the Department of History at the University of Illinois Chicago, joins the program to talk about his new book, Why Everyone Hates White Liberals (Including White Liberals): A History. In this first part of the discussion, we get into liberalism’s consistent spirit yet inconsistent character, the transition from progressivism to liberalism in America in the early 20th century, FDR’s use of the word “liberal” as a sort of marketing tool, the height of the “white liberal,” William F. Buckley Jr. and the modern American conservative movement, the New Left’s opposition to “the liberal order,” the perception of white liberals in the civil rights movement, and more. 

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Iran Talks Advance, Starmer Resigns, Israel Targets Children in Gaza / American Prestige
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Danny and Derek’s promised ring ceremony regrettably must be relocated from MSG due to a scheduling conflict. In this week’s news: The Iran negotiations show signs of progress (1:26) despite disputes over the agreement (5:20), plus conflicting reports over the status of the Strait of Hormuz* (9:24); Lebanon sees a reduction in fighting and another round of talks (12:31); in Gaza, Israel is targeting children (15:38), plus a Board of Peace update (16:48); Keir Starmer resigns as PM of the UK (18:40); the DPRK/North Korea appears to be back on Trump’s radar (21:18); a battle over El Obeid, Sudan, still looms (22:53); Trump is again angry with NATO and has a spat with Italian PM Meloni (25:07); in Russia-Ukraine, an update on the war (27:40), Poland strips Zelenskyy of an award (30:21), and the Russians are again displeased with Trump (32:40); election updates in Colombia (34:25), Peru (36:08), and Ethiopia (37:27); and Trump unveils the new Air Force One (39:23).

*After the time of recording, the initiative to rescue stranded ships in the Strait of Hormuz was paused due to a vessel being attacked

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Daniel BessnerTwitterDaniel Bessner is an historian of US foreign relations, and cohost of American Prestige, a podcast on international affairs.


Derek DavisonDerek Davison is a writer and analyst specializing in international affairs and US foreign policy. He is the publisher of the Foreign Exchanges newsletter, cohost of the American Prestige podcast, and former editor of LobeLog.


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